Ragnar's Thrown Weapons Catalog

Selecting a throwing Axe or 'Hawk

I get a lot of inquiries on how to select a throwing ‘hawk, so here's a quick primer for those who are new to the sport. First, you should not take these suggestions too seriously. Almost any axe can be thrown, and if you have a strong preference for a style that does not fit my suggestions you can probably make it work.

The key to sticking is consistency. This is most easily attained with an axe or 'hawk with a bit of mass. It's best to throw heaviest you can without strain. For most people this means a head weight of about 16 ounces.

Most people stick a ‘hawk with the handle at an angle of about 45ş to the surface of the block. If the upper corner of the edge forms an acute point with the top of the head, it will penetrate deeper and be less likely to fall out. If the point of the edge is above the line of the top of the handle, the axe will still stick if over rotated so the handle forms more of a right angle to the surface of the block. If the edge of the hawk is curved rather than straight, it will be more likely to stick if under rotated so the handle and the edge are parallel to the block.

Using these criteria, the French Lady ‘Hawk and Viking Belt Axe should be excellent throwing axes, and this is in fact the case. Several of the others are not far behind however. The Cold Steel Norse pattern works very well (especially if you thin the edge a bit), as does the Octagon. Again, these are fine differences, and not hard and fast rules. I’m told the Viking Bearded Axe throws very well by those who have purchased one, and it does not closely follow the above guidelines.

When sharpening an axe for throwing I like to leave the fine grooves from a medium grinding belt on the bevel. I try to orient them so they will be more or less parallel the surface of the block when the handle is at a 45 degree angle. This helps to keep the blade in the block on a marginal throw. This will be standard on the Slasinski throwing 'hawks unless you tell me you want a polished bevel.

If you need to resharpen your axe you will probably want to use a file and a stone. I use a belt grinder because I have one. I don't know that I'd buy one for the purpose. Unless you have other uses for a sander or grinder, a good file should work just fine. I say "good file" because files are much more fragile then they look, and most are abused. It's best to start with a new one, preferably bastard cut (with teeth running only one way rather than "criss-cross"). This style leaves a cleaner surface and less of a burr. Keep the teeth clear of chips. Chips will gouge the surface and may cause the file to skate on the edge. USE A GUARD. If the file does lose bite and skate, it can cause you to drive your hand onto the edge. Apply the file to the metal only on the forward stroke. Lift it off for the return. If you press on the return you will break or bend the teeth and destroy the file very quickly. File with a rocking motion to form a convex edge. A good file will leave very little burr, and you can easily clean this up with a stone. When you are done, wrap your file in paper, or store it in a rack, so the teeth don't rattle against other tools. The teeth on a file are very brittle and break easily. A new file with sharp teeth will just cut the hardened steel of even heat treated axes and blades. A dull one will slide. Here's an excellent article on axe sharpening.

If you throw 'hawks, eventually you break handles. As you get better, you break them less often. Of course if you play "split the handle" with your friends, you'll break a lot more handles. Fitting a new handle should be fairly easy with the correct replacement. Ideally, the new handle should go in easily and snug up an inch or so from position. A couple of firm strikes from a fairly heavy hammer should be all you need. (A heavy hammer tends to move the new handle into position with less damage.) This only works if the head is supported by a stout vise. If you don't have a stout vise you might as well use a medium hammer.

However, this isn't an ideal world and you will probably have to do some fitting. If your new handle won't go in far enough, tap it in lightly, then back out. The tight spots will leave marks on the wood. Remove the marks with a wood rasp, knife, sandpaper, or whatever tool you prefer, and repeat until the handle is close to position. Then seat it firmly.

I've had some questions on how to remove a broken handle. I'd first try sawing it off a couple of inches below the head to provide a solid surface for pounding, then drive it out. It's tapered, so once it's started the rest should be easy. If it's broken close to the head, saw it off and try driving it with something having a flat end. If that fails, try drilling several holes from the top, then pound out the pieces. If all else fails, you can burn it out. If the axe has been heat treated you must keep the edge cool while you are doing this. The Slasinski hawks aren't heat treated, so this isn't necessary.

A word about targets: My favorite target is the end grain of a section of softwood log. I like them as large as I can conveniently handle, but at least 18” in diameter and about the same length. Two or three feet is a lot better. Willow or poplar is best, but any soft wood will work nicely. A harder wood requires a stronger throw to stick. I just bore three 2” holes in the side and use sections of saplings or branches as legs. That way if I break one of the legs it’s easy to replace. I can also remove the legs if I want to transport the target. I set them about chest height.

If you don’t have ready access to sections of large log, you can often get them from a local tree service. If you cut your own it’s often free. If they have to cut them for you there may be nominal charge.

Index


Allan Foundry

Allan Foundry 'hawks are cast in America from tough cutlery grade 410 steel. They are exceptionally clean castings. The styles are accurately taken from surviving museum pieces. They come with a stained hickory handle, sharpened and ready to use. The 410 will hold something of an edge for casual camp chores, yet is tough enough for throwing.


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A-23R; The French Lady 'Hawk is pattered after a very old style of throwing axe called a francisca. The Gauls gave Caesar a rather hard time with axes much like these. The pattern was in use over a very long period, and examples have been found as late as the American Colonial period. The head weighs 16 ounces, and has a 4" cutting edge. The increased upsweep improves sticking. This is the most popular axe I sell with the local SCA folks. I throw this one quite a lot myself. It comes with an 18" handle of American Hickory. While it's not evident from the picture, the tapered handle is inserted from the top in the same fashion as the other 'hawks. The price is $43. Out of Stock You might look at the very similar Slasinski French Hawk shown below.

The replacement handle is the "OS" style listed below.


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A-23G; The Viking Belt Axe is typical of the all purpose fighting and utility axe of the Viking period. It has the pronounced "ears" flanking the handle that were common on Viking axes. The blade has a pronounced upsweep for good throwing capability. There's a flat on the back for pounding wooden tent stakes, but I don't think it solid enough for steel stakes. I plan to give one of these a trial as a general camp axe as well as a throwing 'hawk. The head weighs 15 1/2 ounces. The 4 1/2" edge bars this one from NMLRA throwing competition, but is not usually a problem in the SCA. It takes the TD replacement handle listed below. The price is $43.


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A-23B; the Octagon 'hawk is in the style of a better quality frontier 'hawk. It has nicely finished panels reminiscent of "white work", the term for blacksmith work that was finished with a file to remove the forge scale and produce a smooth surface. The cutting edge is about 3 3/4", and the head weighs about 14 ounces. Pete Allan tells me this is the most popular 'hawk among the blackpowder shooters. I can see why. The price is $43.

The replacement handle is the "A-TD" style listed below.


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A-23C; The British Belt Axe is very similar to those issued to British troops during the American Revolution. The pattern was used by both sides, and examples have been found in the camps of both Brittish and American forces. The head weighs about 16 ounces and has a 3 1/2" cutting edge. It has a pronounced poll, which was coming into favor at this time. This improves the balance for ordinary chores. It comes with a 18" handle for $43.

The replacement handle is the "A-TD" style listed below.


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A-23k; the "Apache" is another that mimics the contoured surfaces of the better fileworked 'hawks. The cutting edge is about 3 1/2", and the head weighs about 12 ounces. It feels really good in the hand, and is popular with ladies and others who prefer a lighter 'hawk. The price is $43.

The replacement handle is the "A-TD" style listed below.


A-TD, 18" hickory, for the French, Flared French, Viking, "Hand Forged", Octagon, weeping heart and Medieval 'hawks, $5.
A-OS, 18" hickory, for the Lady French,Iroquois, and Woodland 'hawks, $5.
A-DS, 22" hickory, for the Viking war axe and Warrior axe (these axes are not currently available, but I have handles for those who have purchased them. $8.
A-TDC, 14" hickory, for the Child's 'hawk, $4.50.
A-FM, 14" hickory, for the Fort Meigs, $5.00


Slasinski Foundry

Mike Slasinski has an extensive collection of early American axes and 'hawks. These patterns are inspired by the original pieces. They are castings of 4140 steel, which results in a very tough 'hawk for throwing, but one which will still hold something of an edge for other work. They are treated with a hot salt bath to give the look of an old dug artifact (read very rusty!). Of course when I sharpen them this finish is removed at the edge. If you would like me to refrain from sharpening your 'hawk to preserve the finish (and make it safer to carry in your belt), let me know. A bit of WD-40 or furnature wax will darken the rusted surface to the blackened finish of old well used tools.


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#S-FR: The Slasinski French Hawk is closely copied after two originals owned by Mike Slasinski. The head weighs about 14 ounces and the cutting edge is 3 1/2". Again, this pattern has been around a long time. It comes with a 21" handle.
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#S-K: The Slasinski Kid's Hawk is a light belt axe in the frontier tradition. The head weighs just over 7 ounces, making it easy to throw. The cutting edge is about 2 3/4". Many fighting axes, from the Viking period onward, were quite light. This one would be wickedly fast in a fight. It comes with an 19" handle.
The price is $37.


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#S-FL: The Slasinski Flared Hawk is a pattern that was common from the Viking period through the American Colonial period. This one is also light and fast. The head weighs just over 9 ounces, but there is 4" of cutting edge. I really like this one. It's light to carry but has just enough mass to do useful work. The curved blade allows you to choke up on the handle and use the edge for skinning large game, or with a cutting board for dicing. The curve would fit a wooden bowl nicely.
The price is $38.


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#S-HA: The Slasinski Hammer 'Hawk is a bit more substantial. The head weighs about 12 ounces and the handle is much thicker. The cutting edge is just under 3", and the head is just under 8" in length. It comes with a 19" handle that is quite a bit thicker than the one used with the kid's hawk. It's very similar to one pictured in Newman and Kravic's Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution.
The price is $45.


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#S-SP: The Slasinski Spike 'Hawk is a replica of a popular early fighting style. The head weighs about 14 ounces, heavy enough for general work and light enough to be quick. The cutting edge is about 3 1/4" and the head is just over 8". It comes with a 18" handle that is quite a bit thicker than the one on the kid's hawk.
The price is $45.


Spare handles for the Slasinski 'hawks are $5 each for the 18" and 19" size, and $6 for the 22" size. Either the 18" or the 22" handles will fit the Flared, French or Kid's 'hawk. The others take the 19" handle. It's best to let me know for which hawk you are getting the handle.


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Cold Steel

Cold Steel brand axes are precision drop forged from a medium carbon 5150 steel. This gives them just enough carbon to harden with heat treatment, while retaining excellent toughness. They are differentially heat treated so that the cutting edge and hammer face is fully hardened, while the balance is left relatively soft to absorb shock.

Drop forging involves the use of dies and massive power hammers. The result is more consistent than hand forging (but not as consistent as the castings shown above). This is an advantage when buying axes in matched sets for throwing.

They have relatively large eyes, so the handles are thicker and stouter, and therefore less likely to break. The larger diameter handle also gives a better grip when the hawk is used for chopping rather than throwing. The handles are straight grained American Hickory, and the heads are produced in Taiwan.

Some production is marked "American Tomahawk Company", but the heads are still made in Taiwan. There is also an American company with this name which is not connected with Cold Steel. I understand there have been some problems over this and your hawk may, or may not, be marked in this way.


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CS-90F: The Frontier Pattern from Cold Steel has a nicely finished 12 ounce steel head with a cutting edge about 3 1/2 inches, and a 19 inch Hickory handle. With the slight upper flare of the head, this would be suitable for almost any time period. The average weight with the handle is 20.5 ounces. The price is $35.

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CS-90N: The Norse Pattern from Cold Steel has a steel head in a distinctively Viking pattern. The pronounced flare of the head gives it a bit more mass (13 ounces), but the 4 3/8 inch cutting edge is not allowed in NMLRA throwing competition. It is excellent for SCA competition however. It also comes with a 19 inch hickory handle, and the average weight is 22.6 ounces.
The price is $35.


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CS-90T: The Trail 'Hawk is light (11 ounces) and quick, with a narrow (2 1/4") cutting edge and a useful hammer poll with a hardened face. The average weight with the handle is listed as 19 ounces, but my samples were a few ounces heavier. $35.


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CS-90R: The Rifleman's 'Hawk is heaviest of the Cold Steel heads, with a weight of some 27 ounces. Again, there is hardened hammer poll for driving stakes, nails or whatever needs to be hit with a serious hammer. It has about 3 1/2" of edge. The average weight with the 19 inch hickory handle is listed at 32 ounces. $39


Spare handles for the Cold Steel 'hawks.

I've got several kinds of handles for these 'hawks. The one I sell most is not made by Cold Steel, but is a very good fit. It has just a bit more of a tear-dropped shape. With a little fitting (see above), or even just set with a heavy hammer, it works fine for most people. It's nicely turned and sanded, about 19" long, and the price is $5 (#H-012).

I also stock handles made by Cold Steel for folks who prefer a more exact fit. They are precision turned and sanded, and seem to be varnished as well. The Cold Steel handles are tapered only where they fit the eye, so the gripping end is larger in diameter than some of the other brand of hawks. This is an advantage if you are going to work with an axe rather than throw it.
#H90RH; about 19", $6,


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Condor Throwing Axes

Here's the final answer to the problem of broken handles. The Condor throwing axe is one piece of 1075 high carbon steel, a bit less than 1/4" (.237") thick. It's a little over 13" long, and the head is about 7" wide with a 3 1/4" cutting edge. It's coated with a baked-on finish to help prevent rust. It weighs about 1 pound, 2 ounces, an ideal weight for most people. There is historical precedent for all-steel throwing axes. In the Middle Ages they were called hurlbats, and often had spikes at both ends of the handle as well as the edge and back spike. $35. Made in El Salvadore.

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Hand Forged Axes

These are forged in India where labor is cheap. You get the advantage of traditional construction at a fraction of what it would cost to make here. Because of the hand work, dimensions will vary a bit. They are supplied with Asian hardwood handles, probably Paduk. Some come with fairly good edges, some do not. The steel is soft enough to file if you need to, or I can grind them to a working edge for an extra $6.

H52 Viking Throwing Axe. This is a big axe for a thrower. The stout handle is a bit over 23 inches long. A sample head weighed 21 ounces and had about 4 1/2 inches of cutting edge. It's just over 2 pounds with the handle and might be better as a two handed thrower. $39.

H53 The Bearded Axe. This is another style from the Viking period. It has additional mass due to the added "beard". The head of a sample weighed about 23 ounces, and had about 5 inches of cutting edge. It would make a useful camp axe or two-handed throwing axe. $39 Out of Stock.

I now have spare handles for the H52 and H53. They are American Hickory and about 26" long. I think the slight extra length is useful, and Hickory is much tougher than the Asian wood. These are made in the USA by Amish folks. If you are trying to fit another axe, at the eye they measure about 1 1/4" (1.22") by 11/16" (1/69"). $8.


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Marble's Pocket Safety Axe

#MR006; Webster Marble was an inventor and professional timber cruiser in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan during the late 1890's. By 1898 he started a small company to produce innovative products for outdoorsmen. One of his signature products was the "Safety Axe" with a guard that folded into the handle. They did not require a sheath, and were sized to fit in the pocket of a mackinaw. This is a reproduction of one of these pocket axes. It's about 12" overall, with a 4 3/4" carbon steel head and about 2 3/4" of cutting edge. It weighs about one pound, six ounces. The samples I checked had very poor edges. You can sharpen it to your preference, or I'll do if for you for an extra $7. The price without sharpening is $25.
It's priced this way because it's made under license in China. They have been in storage, The boxes may be damaged and the heads may have minor rust spots which will not affect the function. Let me know if it's a gift and you would like me to select a nicer looking box, etc.


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Marble's Pocket Safety Axe

#MR005; This is a slightly smaller version. It's about 11" overall, with a 4 5/8" carbon steel head and about 2 1/4" of cutting edge. The narrow head makes quite a difference, and a sample weighed one pound, two ounces. It doesn't sound like that much less, but they feel very different in the hand. They have been in storage and are likely to have rust spots. The price without sharpening is $23. One in Stock
It's priced this way because it's made under license in China.


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Marble's Hunter's Axe

#MR009DB; Here's another recreation from the 1800's, a double bitted hunter's axe. It was common to keep one edge razor sharp for chopping and skinning, and the other a bit blunter for cartilage or knotty wood. The handle is 14 1/2" long, and has a useful swell below the handle. This improves the grip when choking up on the handle for skinning or carving. The carbon steel head is just under 5" wide with 2 3/4" cutting edges. It weighs about one pound, six ounces. The samples I checked had very useable edges out of the box. The axe is supplied with a belt sheath for $34.
It's priced this way because it's made under license in China. They have been in storage. The boxes may be damaged and the heads may have minor rust spots which will not affect the function. Let me know if it's a gift and you would like me to select a nicer looking box, etc.


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The Roselli Hatchet

#R860; The Roselli Hatchet is a modern multi-task tool. Besides functioning in the usual way as a chopping tool, the thick wedge shape of the blade makes it unusually efficient for splitting with minimal chance of the blade getting caught in the wood. The cut out in the blade, combined with the rounded form of the head behind the cutout, make it easy to get your hand behind the edge for shaving and carving. It can also be used to skin and dismember large game. The stout edge is better able to stand up to bone and cartilage than the usual thinner edge. I would expect this comes at some cost in chopping efficiency, but most users seem pleased with the performance. There is even a small hammer face on the back for pounding nails or tent pegs. The handle is about 14" long and the cutting edge is about 3 1/2". It's supplied with a stout leather belt sheath. The whole outfit is quite light with a sample weighing about 1 pound, 12 ounces including the sheath. The price is $85. Out of Stock


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The Roselli Axe

#R850; The Roselli Axe is the same head mounted on an 18" handle. The extra length increases leverage, gives the option if using both hands for increased power. Interestingly, two samples I tested weighed the same 1 pound, 12 ounces as the shorter hatchet. I suppose there was a difference in wood density. The price of the Axe is $89. Out of Stock


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Small Oyo

The small Oyo comes from the town of Giello, Norway, and is said to be patterned after a Viking Age axe that was found near the town. It's a neat little axe with a 10 1/2" handle. The dropforged head is about 4 1/8" wide with 2 1/4" of cutting edge. It weighs only 11 1/2 ounces including the handle. It would be a neat axe for backpackers or hikers. A sheath is supplied, but it's pretty flimsey. $45.

Throwing Knives

I do not believe that the throwing of knives was common in any historical Western Culture. I can't recall seeing very many (any?) period throwing knives from Europe or the American Colonies. It's great fun however, and very popular with reenactors of all periods.

Repeated throwing is very hard on a knife. Unless the knife is designed for the purpose it will quickly be destroyed. Conversely, a knife that will stand up to throwing isn't usually good for much else. You might be able to split some firewood, and I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck with one, but they are not versatile multi-purpose tools as are the Scandinavian knives.

I've decided to carry the following types of throwing knives. They are not based on historical examples because I know of none.


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The Heavy Throwing Knife weighs about 19 ounces, more than some of the 'hawks I sell. It's about 13 1/2" long, 2 1/8" wide, and the blade is 3/16" (.197") thick, It comes with thick leather handles secured with screw fittings for easy replacement. The rotation is similar to that of the hawks, so you don't have to change your style of thowing drastically. There's no real edge, but you don't need one for throwing. It would be easy enough to file or grind an edge if you wanted to use it for spliting firewood, etc. No sheath is provided. It's made in India, so the price is $15.
Special, three for $40.


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The medium throwing knife is a response to requests for something between the heavy and light throwers. It's of modern styling from the Cold Steel folks. Length is 14 inches and the weight is about 11 1/2 ounces. It's made of tough 1055 medium carbon steel and is called the "ProFlight". $12.50. Made in China.


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The light throwing knife is unsuitable for buckskinners, but fine for SCA competition. It is ground out of stainless steel that is about 3/16" (.168") in thickness. There's about 6 1/2" of blade, and the length over-all is about 10 1/2". The weight is only 6 1/2 ounces. It would be easy for you to add a riveted or wrapped grip if you wish. A riveted leather handle would make it more acceptable for buckskinners, and add a little useful mass.
The price is $6 each, or 4 for $20. Made in Pakistan.


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Cold Steel True Flight is more than a throwing knife. Despite what I said above, this one comes with a working edge and cord wrapped handle for improved grip. Besides being an excellent thrower, it should work nicely as a nearly indestructable camp knife for splitting firewood, etc. It's about a foot long, with 6" of sharpened edge. Made of 1050 medium carbon steel, it weighs just under 11 ounces and comes with a stout sheath. $27.50. Made in China.


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Knife and Tomahawk Throwing, by Harry K. McEvoy. Mr. McEvoy is the founder of the American Knife Throwers Alliance and the author of numerous books, articles and training manuals. This is his introduction to the sport of knife and tomahawk throwing. The little pamphlet is only 28 pages long, but covers the selection of throwing knives, stances and grips, how to build a target, tips on accuracy, and even a brief section on hunting. The price is only $5.


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